|By Flattop (Flattop) on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 09:10 pm: Edit|
I'm looking at their 8" chinese cleaver to add to the knife roll.
|By Corey (Corey) on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 01:37 am: Edit|
never tryed asian knifes, yet. Ahso.
|By Flattop (Flattop) on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 02:49 am: Edit|
Well I guess Australia counts as Asian. NOT
|By Andapanda (Andapanda) on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 06:20 pm: Edit|
I've never used a Furi knife, but from my research, they are apparently designed in Australia and made in China. In my opinion, the Chinese have not made very good quality cutlery because the inferior quality of their steel. Besides, products made in China are made with slave labor, and the profits those communists make are used to build up their military which they intend to use to attack the U.S.A. Therefore, I do not recommend buying anything made in China, unless there is absolutely no other alternative product available on the market.
|By Steve9389 (Steve9389) on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 09:39 am: Edit|
These are, IMHO, the best knives I've tried. Their balance is great, they feel terrific in my hand, and they sharpen well and hold an edge. Plus, they're reasonably priced. My birthday's coming up, and the Furi 10-inch chef's is what I want. Hint, hint.
|By Snuffaluff (Snuffaluff) on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 10:18 am: Edit|
Anda, that's like saying boycot the french(another thread somewhere). It's impossible to not buy something made in china. They make everything. ;)
Other than that, I have no comment, cause I'm a pion!
|By Andapanda (Andapanda) on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 05:19 pm: Edit|
My apologies for editorializing. As far as the French are concerned, they're different. What can I say? They're French! However, I must admit the reason for my bias. My parents fled China after W.W.II because the Chinese Communists were killing people who "did not tow the (communist)party line." I'll refrain on commenting anymore about the P.R.C. and try to stay on topic so that my comments are germane to the field of culinary arts, foodservice, cutlery, equipment, etc.
After experiencing many of the same experiences as other cooks on this forum concerning stolen, lost, abused, or damaged cutlery to due gross abuse by fellow cooks or waitstaff, I have bought cheap knives made in China so that if they are too stingy to buy their own knives, I'll lend them one of my cheap knives so that if they abuse it, then I won't be so angry at them. In reality, they really should buy their own cutlery if they take pride in their work as foodservice professionals. How many people in this vocation actually take pride in their work these days?
No, I don't think that you're a peon. I know that we as foodservice professionals are not given much respect nor decent wages in this country, but there's no need to sell yourself short.
Metal handled knives these days seem to be the fashion trend because they appear sleek and futuristic. A Portugese cutlery manufacturer named Icel <http://www.icel.pt/ingles/cozinha2.cfm?cod=2> which has quite a favorable reputation amongst butchers for their butcher knives, also make knives with metal handles and they also make a Chinese cleaver in their Absolute Steel Series and Absolute Form Series product lines.
Now to answer your question about the Furi Chinese cleaver, Kitchenetc.com<http://www.kitchenetc.com/Products.cfm?sku=000904151&trackingid=dltime> sells a Chinese cleaver for $63.99. I have personally dealt with Kitchenetc. in one of their stores, but not online. I am a satisfied customer of Kitchenetc. Another online merchant: <http://www.ikitchen2000.com/prod/db/prod.php3?prodNo=F01FUR106> also has a Furi Chinese cleaver for $62.99. I have not had any experience with this online merchant. You will probably have to check with these merchants for their exact shipping charges depending on how many items you eventually order from them.
A caveat concerning metal handle knives. Metal transmits shock of the blade impacting the cutting board directly into your hand, wrist, forearm, and elbow. If you have tendonitis, as I have, or if you have carpal tunnel syndrome, then, perhaps a metal handle knife might actually inflame your medical condition. If you're healthy and are fortunate not to have to deal with such conditions, then enjoy your Furi knives. I prefer plastic handle knives because they absorb, albeit a small amount, the shock force transmitted into my hand and up my arm. Word of advice: don't grow old, it sucks. Well, as long as my toes point forward and not straight up pushing daisies, they haven't buried me yet, and I have no right to complain. Have a nice day. Good luck.
|By Corey (Corey) on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 06:21 pm: Edit|
I like messermeister knives. you can get them from a fairly cheap line to a fine line. I use the 5000 series, it's about low to midline quality. nice grips, good steel.
|By Snuffaluff (Snuffaluff) on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:55 am: Edit|
no need to apologize, and the reason I called myself a peon is b/c i'm just now starting school.
About metal handled knives, it seems as though they would have a problem w/ slippage. Seems like they wouldn't offer enough grip. I don't know, never used one, and for my personal opinion, never will.
|By Andapanda (Andapanda) on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 12:59 pm: Edit|
Yes, the Messsermeister Four Seasons 5000 series appears to be amongst the best stamped commercial cutlery on the market. The only other line of cutlery which might be better would be the Chef's Choice International Master Series 2000 product line: <http://edgecraft.com/page3c.html> or
The Edgecraft technical service representative denied that the International Master Series 2000 product line is manufactured by Messermeister, although they do appear to resemble one another quite closely. He had told me that the identity of the manufacturer is proprietary information. He did continue to tell me that the manufacturer has been manufacturing primarily butcher knives in Germany for over a century and a half, and does come with a lifetime warranty through Edgecraft. Messermeister's brochure did not state a lifetime warranty on their cutlery. The Messermeister sales representative did not mention anything about a lifetime warranty to me either. Therefore, I don't think that the Messermeister knives are covered by a lifetime warranty, are they?
If money were no object, and if I were seeking to buy a new set of stamped knives, I would buy the Chef's Choice and Messermeister knives. They resemble one another closely enough in appearance so that one could grow accustomed to both brands without much consideration to transitioning from one type of handle to the other.
By the way, after several months of research, conversing with the president of Edgecraft corporation, and actually holding Chef's Choice Trizor 10x knives in my hands, in my humble opinion, I consider the Chef's Choice Trizor 10x cutlery to be the most metallurgically advanced forged kitchen cutlery line available on the market today. Best of all, they're made in the U.S.A., and come with a lifetime warranty!
|By Andapanda (Andapanda) on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 01:09 pm: Edit|
Congratulations! Which school will you be attending? Yes, you're correct, I believe that metal handle knives would not only have the problems which I had already mentioned in my previous post, but they would also have a problem of slippage. Global attempts to remedy that problem by stippling their handles, however, I've read in another post somewhere in this forum that that cook had quite a challenge trying to keep his Global knife handles sanitary.
I have several makes and types of Chinese, and Japanese cleavers, perhaps I could give you a few suggestions on oriental knives if you'd like. Good luck.