The New Bakers Dozen
Old Time Buckwheat Cakes

The The Bakers Dozen: Old Time Buckwheat Cakes
By Chefspike (Chefspike) on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 01:05 am: Edit

2 cups bread flour
1 qt. buckwheat flour....No. 1

1/2 oz yeast
1&1/2 qts. water....No. 2

2 Tbsp. molasses
2 tsp. soda
1/2 cup HOT water
1 Tbsp. salt....No.3

1/2 cup melted butter....No.4

dissolve no.2 and add to no. 1.
beat til smooth.
cover and stand in fridge for 8-12 hours.
take out of fridge.
blend in no.3 and no.4 and allow to stand in room temp for 30 mins.
cook on lightly greased griddle.

General Mills.....1941.

By Chefspike (Chefspike) on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 01:19 am: Edit

Boston Brown bread.

2 cups milk
1/4 tsp. soda
1/4 tsp. salt
2 Tbsp. butter, melted
2/3 cups molasses.......No.1

1 cup fine, whole wheat flour
1&1/2 cups Holmuller dark, rye flour
1 cup corn meal.....No.2

1 cup raisins.....No.3

add no.2 to no.3 and mix until thoroughly incorporated.
add no.3 just before your done with the first step.
put into well greased or papered brown bread molds.
(3&7/8 top x 3&1/4 bottom x 5" sides)
scale 1&1/4 lbs.
cover mold and place in steamer, one forth filled with water.
cover steamer and bake in oven at 375 to 400 degrees, F. for 2&1/2 hours.
when done and still hot remove from molds and cool before cutting.
approx. 3 loaves


By Chefgibz0 (Chefgibz0) on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 10:49 am: Edit

How about a recipe for TRUE T. Jefferson biscuits??

By Chefspike (Chefspike) on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 10:11 pm: Edit

I'm too lazy to look, post yours.

By Chefgibz0 (Chefgibz0) on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 11:06 am: Edit

Don't have one that is why I asked you!!

By Snuffaluff (Snuffaluff) on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 04:11 pm: Edit


By Chefspike (Chefspike) on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 01:00 am: Edit

True T. Jefferson bisquits.
What the hell are those?
this sounds like something a ex. chef would ask for.
well, lets see......
jefferson,... virginia...middle 1700 to early 1800.

hillbilly, but a smart one.

molasses, lard,(maybe butter) pecans, maybe cinn., sweet potatoes. (big ones).
maybe he had one of his slave cooks bake them.
and I bet they were loose, not hard baked but soft baked.
if ya want a recipe chef, you know with amounts, goggle ......monticello and buy the book.
geez, that was tuff. ya could have watched NBC and gotten the damn recipe.
and besides, this could have been his Mothers or wifes or daughters recipe.
or it could have been that slave cook that he had that was taught french cooking.
who knows?
ya right. LOL

By Chefspike (Chefspike) on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 01:16 am: Edit

Hey gibzO,
goggle thomas jefferson bisquit recipes.
a thousand will come up.
one slob even made one up with heavy cream
ya right......
and butter ??????
didn't jefferson drink a lot and spend a lot of time in the barn with the slave women?
I would think he used lard in those bisquits, goes better with wine and beer.

By Chefgibz0 (Chefgibz0) on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 10:44 am: Edit

O.K. there smart a$$...I was asking if the WFP resident baker Spike had a tried and true recipe, not a snide comment, for those I can talk to my waitstaff. As for the google part, again, wanted good input from Spike, a book only takes you so far, but a baker can tell you the tricks and secrets which I thought you had.......maybe you should stick to painting.

As far a Jefferson being a hillbilly....far from it. Read your history books, and NOT the ones the government recomends.

By Snuffaluff (Snuffaluff) on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 11:36 am: Edit


By Chefspike (Chefspike) on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 03:12 pm: Edit

OK. I wasen't being "snide", i don't even know what that is.
I thought you were being funny asking me for that, that which is everywhere.
my mistake.
Virginia...if it walks like a hillbilly and lives in a hillbilly area of the country then it must be a hillbilly, unless of course its a transplanted yankee.
if thats the case, let me git my rope.

By Snuffaluff (Snuffaluff) on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 11:36 am: Edit

this comin' from a guy that lives in Cali...;)

By Chefgibz0 (Chefgibz0) on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 12:15 pm: Edit

Lives in Cali and comes from Detroit?? Rope for a yankee?? I just wanted to add to a thread of spontanious recipes. Not to mention one that I have been searchin for. The bakery here used to do them and they were scone like but always too dry. I have been to Monticello (please capitalize it next time, it deserves that respect) and did not actually see a recipe for them.....although they could have been under a different name and it did not strike me as a possibility then. Also, why go to the internet or a book when I can go to the Man.....yes, that means you Spike. If you want, pass me Elwoods email and I will converse with him, think he might be a bit more respectful of a historical great rather than thy?? Just wanted to pick you brain dude.


adj : expressive of contempt; "curled his lip in a supercilious smile"; "spoke in a sneering jeering manner";

By Chefspike (Chefspike) on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 01:47 am: Edit

I was not being snide. period.
I really thought you were having fun with this, since you can get the recipe on the internet.
I may be from Det-riot, but I've hung with enough guys from the south to become a member, so don't take that as I was making fun of them.
I'd rather be a hillbilly than a lot of other stuff.
Monticello. there, that better? I didn't think that respect was needed for our conversation.
My mistake.
And I'm NOT the "MAN" here when it comes to baking and pastry there have been far better Bakers and Pastry people on this web site than I.
(I try to check the ego at the door)
They just don't come here as often(don't know why), in fact it's been quite a while since some of the others have been here. I guess people move on.
what else, oh ya, Elwood would love to have a conversation with you, he uses my email.
If you really want me to get you a recipe for sweet potatoe bis. I will, or I'll make one up no problem, and it won't be the size of a scone and it won't be dry.
you let me know.
Go Old Guys On The Red Wings........

By Snuffaluff (Snuffaluff) on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 11:58 am: Edit

You two need to hug and make up. Go on...

By Chefspike (Chefspike) on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 10:27 pm: Edit

I didn't do anything "snide".

By Snuffaluff (Snuffaluff) on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 10:28 am: Edit

Don't argue!! ;)

By Chefgibz0 (Chefgibz0) on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 11:32 pm: Edit

O.K....let me explain....maybe it is all my fault.....I was truely lookin for Spike to give me the recipe....the only reason I asked was to prolong his spontaneous recipes thread. I only got defensive when I took it he was responding to me "snide" like, like I was one of those "i need help with my homework" threads....I do know how to google...but like I said.......books and recipes only go so far...the truth lies in the bakers hands, experience and technique and was askin for some of that professional insight from Baker Spike.

I would also like to email Elwood......cuz I have email Spike before and got nothin back.......well maybe that was when he was distracted by the Target fame!?!?!?

By Chefspike (Chefspike) on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 12:08 am: Edit

Baker Spike.....Jesus.....That makes me feel OLD.
OLD and FAT with flour in my ears
Ok, I'm over that.
Ok, I will put together a recipe for those bisquits.(it will be a week or so, cause i'm jammed right now, not only with work but with all those women who have seen me in the target thing and just want to TALK to me about the biz.
Get some insight. Fame. Ya. Right)

By Chefspike (Chefspike) on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 12:11 am: Edit

I'm glad thats settled.
Now I won't have to read Snuffy telling me to hug someone again.
Spike don't hug.
Ok, only the dog but thats ok.

By Snuffaluff (Snuffaluff) on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 10:43 am: Edit

Hey, I said hug, but coulda said Kiss eh?! lol

By Chefgibz0 (Chefgibz0) on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 11:29 am: Edit

I feel bad for Elwood having to go through that................

By Chefspike (Chefspike) on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 10:19 pm: Edit

ya well start feeling bad for me, cause I gotta listen to it from snuff.
didn't you get married not too long ago snuff?
was it to a women?
whats with all the feelings crap?
your in Texas right? don't hug and all that other stuff in Texas.
whats wrong with you?????

By Chefmanny (Chefmanny) on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 06:43 pm: Edit

Oooohh the breath!!!!!!!!!!

By Chefgibz0 (Chefgibz0) on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 11:37 pm: Edit

Yah Manny...the breath....Elwoods got it tuff!!

By Snuffaluff (Snuffaluff) on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 11:52 am: Edit

lol SPike, yeah I got married, maybe that why I'm taking it out on you! lol Can't yell and holler at her anymore. Nope, we don't hug in Tx, cause when someone yells at you like that, we just shoot!! lmao

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