|By Cheftim (Cheftim) on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 08:08 pm: Edit|
Read this article and see if it doesn't get your blood boiling
Animal-rights vandals hit chef's home
|By Chefmanny (Chefmanny) on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 08:20 pm: Edit|
Must be nice to have all that free time on your hands and enough money to enjoy it like this!!!!!!
These people need to volunteer to rebuild Iraq.....NOW!!!!!!!
|By Chefrev (Chefrev) on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 05:05 pm: Edit|
Veal producers beware! You're next!
Jeez! Is there no limit to the idiocy?! If someone doesn't like the way some foods are made, then they shouldn't eat them. Heck, even boycott restaurants that serve them. Vandalism like this article describes crosses the line and just keeps on going.
A local steak place I know of had their sign vandalized a few years back. They have a BIG fiberglass angus steer on their sign. Someone took red spraypaint and wrote, "MEAT IS MURDER!" across the head of the steer. All this did was confirm what most everyone thinks about such overzealous action, that it accomplishes nothing that the perpetrators may be trying to accomplish. Nobody I know said, "Hey, ya know, that's right, meat IS murder. Honey, let's go to the Moosewood for supper!" Some poor dishwasher ended up being the one to scrub off the paint. I'll bet HE wasn't too sympathetic to the vandals' cause either.
|By Flattop (Flattop) on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 06:09 am: Edit|
Well.. when and if I ever get a restaurant of my own, it will most definatly be "non vegan" due to this kinda crap. They are bad enough with the whining about menus(classmate). Then you see folks out there making "protein" that tastes just like beef or chicken..What's the freakin' point?? Then these animal right's wackos want to dictate what everyone else should eat??
|By Ironhead (Ironhead) on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 04:43 pm: Edit|
People like that really knot my guts! It's a duck, ducks are stupid and lack opposeable thumbs, therefore they are lower on the food chain than humans. There is an old buddhist saying that goes something like this: If a frog lives his entire life at the bottom of the well does he ever miss the ocean? For chrissakes, these are ducks brought up for a specific use, its not like we're all out there eating fattened spotted owl liver. Vegans Shmegans, you don't eat meat, you're lower on the food chain than I am. That means that if it ever comes down to it, vegans are an alternate food source as far as I'm concerned. We have sharp inscisors and pointy teeth for a reason and its not to subsist solely on nuts and berries. I apologize for that rant, and I hope I never have to eat a vegan, I imagine they'd be all stringy.
|By Snuffaluff (Snuffaluff) on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 10:45 am: Edit|
I don't know how people function w/o meat. I know that eating vegan style is healthy, but you gotta have fish, and fat juicy steak is just so damn good!
|By Chefmanny (Chefmanny) on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 11:03 am: Edit|
Are you kidding??? Have you ever seen vegans? Their skin has no tone, they are bony, the hair looks like frayed wires, and they move like they have no energy!
I am an overweight meat eating Chef but, I have never looked that sickly!!!!!
I see these people on TV weighing their 4 ozs. of chicken, their 1.5 cups of vegetables, boiling it, no flavor, nothing and I'm saying what the hell are they doing??? They're going to die just like me and the next meat lover!!!, enjoy it on the way!
When it's your turn, you are going, it really doesn't matter what you ate!!!!!!
|By Ironhead (Ironhead) on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 12:27 pm: Edit|
HAHAHAHA! I just saw a pic of a billboard in Saskatoon that said and I quote, "There's plenty of room for all God's creatures....Right next to the mashed potatoes." I imagine it was a photoshop fake but that slogan ranks right up there with "If we weren't meant to eat animals, they wouldn't be made of meat." And, concerning salads: "That's not food, that's what food eats."
|By Snuffaluff (Snuffaluff) on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 02:00 pm: Edit|
I know a girl that doesn't eat meat, and she's in great shape.
Anyways, I'd never give up meat... unless the doctor ordered me to. Naw, not even then...lol
"There's plenty of room for all God's creatures....Right next to the mashed potatoes."
aaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha... that's a good one. Definatly have to remember that one.
|By Chefrev (Chefrev) on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 04:27 pm: Edit|
I know several vegatarians, and a few vegans. They're not terrorists. They CAN be a little preachy but so can I (occupational hazard). My problem is with the minority who thinks they speak for the rest of their group when they attack others for not believing the way they do. Admittedly, the Church has done that over the centuries and it's no more right. Any group that seeks to force the rest of the world to live their particular way is WRONG!
But I'm just a carnivore so it may just be the red meat saturating my veins and blocking my intellectual function. Pass the Osso Bucco, please.
|By Flattop (Flattop) on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 08:16 pm: Edit|
I checked out the Bite back website
Here's a few of there "actions"
From aboveground activists in the US:
"A message was received anonymously by aboveground activists in the US that on Sunday, July 27, 2003, concerned citizens visited the home of Didier Jaubert--a vehement supporter of foie gras--in Santa Rosa, CA.
Details of Jaubert's plans to open a restaurant in conjunction with Sonoma Foie Gras are in the following news article.
SFG is one of only two foie gras producers in the U.S. Workers shove large metal pipes down the throats of ducks four times per day for 3-4 weeks and pump them full of massive quantities of food to enlarge their livers to 8-10 times their natural size for this French "delicacy".
The restaurant is slated to open next month (later than the article says). Messages were left with red paint and glass etching cream on his front door, windows, and three garage doors such as "foie gras is animal torture" and "stop or be stopped." Jaubert's locks and garage doors were superglued as well.
We cannot let this restaurant open. Jaubert needs to hear immediately that people will not tolerate this atrocity. ... "
anonymously by aboveground US activists:
"Concerned citizens paid another visit to the home of a foie gras promoter in California: Laurent Manrique. Manrique will be the head chef of Sonoma Saveurs, the new restaurant being opened by Sonoma Foie Gras. Manrique is also the head chef of Aqua Corporation, a set of restaurants in San Francisco. He specializes in this horrifically cruel product.
The visitors dumped red paint over the front of his house and statues, glass etched his car windows with "foie gras is animal torture" and "murderer", and dumped paint stripper over his car. This was two nights after a similar action at the home of Didier Jaubert, one of Manrique's business partners in the new venture. ... "
Received anonymously by Australian activists:
"On the night of Sunday the 22nd of June, the ALF visited the premises of various businesses throughout Auckland, which profit from the misery and death of the innocent.
The ALF struck first at New Lynn, where The Steak House restaurant had its walls and windows redecorated with slogans such as "Meat is Murder" and "Blood On Your Hands".
Next on the list was the KFC across the road, where the drive-through was spray painted with the words "KFC Kills", "Chicken Murders" and "Innocent Blood" among other things.
The McDonalds in the same area did not escape the notice of the ALF. It's windows and drive-through area were spray painted with slogans such as "Stop Killing Cows", "McMurder", "Meat is Murder" and "Ronald Kills Cows".
The ALF then moved on from that area and happened to come across "The Meat Boss", which had it's locks glued and the words "Meat is Murder" written across it's entrance way.
Down the road from "The Meat Boss" was the ALF's next target, the Mt. Eden Burger King. The ALF redecorated the entire perimeter of this building with slogans such as "Murder King", "Stop Killing Animals", "Meat is Murder", "Blood On Your Hands" and "Stop Killing Cows".
The last stop for the ALF that night was the Mt. Eden KFC, which had last been targeted by ALF activists a few weeks ago. The ALF again covered the entire perimeter of this building, the drive-through being the main focus. "KFC Murder", "Chicken Killers", "Animal Liberation", and "Innocent Blood" were among the slogans which covered the building by the time the ALF had finished with it.
The Animal Liberation Front will continue actions such as these, worldwide, until the innocent creatures of this Earth are no longer subjected to a life and death which is the equivalent of Hell on Earth. The ALF will not stand by and take no action while the animals of this world are abused, tormented and persecuted and are silently suffering in pain and misery beyond description.
|By Kinglear (Kinglear) on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 08:56 pm: Edit|
I disagree with these peoples' (ALF and PETA) tactics. They should not harm anyone, or thier business, or their property to get their point across. In all honesty, their tactics and efforts are counterproductive-the attention they seek for their cause is diverted into attention to their actions and the harm they do. No one ever even hears their message.
That being said, I agree with them that foie gras should not be produced for sale or human consumption. I am a meat eating former vegan--a case of pernicious anemia (severe lack of vitamin B-12) changed my mind about the dietary value of a consistently vegan diet. While I agree that SOME meat is necessary for a balanced diet and that eating animal protien is fine, I don't agree that we should torture animals to provide ourselves with a balanced or even tasty diet.
I visited a foie gras goose farm while on a culinary trip to France and the process by which this liver is produced is HORRIFYING! Tight metal rings are placed around the geese's necks, then they are force fed phenomenal amounts of fatty food which they cannot regurgitate. This causes the liver to swell and their abdomens to distend to the point where they cannot stand or walk. These sick listless geese are slaughtered after several weeks of this torture and only the liver is harvested because the meat becomes too polluted by bodily toxins. What a waste. If you believe veal is a proper meat to eat, try visiting a production facility and then see if you have the stomach for it.
Sure, we are the highest animals on the food chain. We are also self aware-an attribute to existence that extends to other animals too. Does being high on the food chain justify setting cats tails on fire or feeding a dog a lit cherry bomb or leaving an animal in a closed hot car? I see the production of foie gras as analogous to these thoughtless actions. As the highest on the food chain we are also charged with the job of respectful caretakers not just blind consumers of the nearest protein source.
|By Steve9389 (Steve9389) on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 10:03 pm: Edit|
There's a lesson in these widely divergent views, I think. These are lessons I've learned well as a veal- and fois gras-loving husband of a pesco-vegetarian. If we're going out, we make sure we go somewhere where she can get a decent meal without a significant hassle. On the other hand, she's got no qualms about cooking meat for our kids or me (even though it grosses her out).
I can, and do, choose to eat and cook fois gras (with a big smile on my face). But when I'm out with my wife I won't order it. She wishes I'd never eat or cook meat again, but she keeps it to herself.
See what I'm getting at? The animal rights folks can decide for themselves what to eat or not, and they can educate the rest of us to their hearts' content. The rest of us can can respect that this stuff bothers these folks, let them be, and accomodate them when they come into our restaurants and ask for vegetarian food.
I know I'm living in dreamland hoping that everyone will respect one another, but I also still think Minnesota still has a chance to go to the Rose Bowl.