Posted by ruth goodwin on September 02, 1997 at 01:50:41:
In Reply to: Re: Children and Restaurants posted by Lorri Royle on June 27, 1997 at 22:34:03:
: : : hi i would just like to say that as chef and mother that it is the parents who make beastly kids and that also kids are kids but i guess you forgot that .my son on occasion has acted-up in a cafe or such but never on purpose to ruin anyones dining exper.i do agree with you on the irritation of parents who bring their kids in with happy meals that are unhealthy anyways. my son eats everything from cherrios to paella .
: : Gretchen:
: : I haven't forgotten that kids are kids. I don't expect a child to stop being a child for a few hours. I do expect parents to know their children's limit and not bring them out to eat once they've reached it.
: : It is clear that a number of parents don't care what their child does in a restaurant or in any other public place. As management, I feel I should have some role in controlling the environment of my dining room for the comfort of all of my customers. That includes adjusting air conditioning or music levels, turning off the ceiling fan, lighting candles, and expecting some level of socially acceptable behavior from all of my patrons, regardless of age. I feel equally strongly about my adult patrons who behave in an inappropriate manner, such as blowing a nose on a linen napkin, becoming loudly drunk, etc.
: : I have had some perfectly lovely children in the restaurant, I wouldn't have missed that opportunity. So what do I say, and how do I say it, when things do get out of control? You may be a responsible enough parent to remove your child if things get out of hand, but let me assure you, I have had children sitting on the floor, mashing a muffin into the carpet with a bread knife, running at top speed through the gift shop, playing video games in the dining room, leaning back in their chairs and falling into the pastry case, I could go on and on and on. Not every parent is caring and concerned, so how do you propose we address those who aren't?
: : Karen
: Karen:
: I agree 100%. The only solution I can offer is this. As a parent I have raised my children to not act that way at our own dinning room table, let alone a restaurant one. I have never had a problem. (military thing ya know)However, I am guilty of bringing a Mcdonalds happy meal to a restaurant that I knew had nothing to offer children. I realize my error, and apologize. Should have never gone there in the first place. I am always aware that the people around my table are paying good money to eat, so it is common courtesy to keep the children quite so you and the other customers have a great meal. If my children do act up for what ever reason, we take our meal to go. I can't answer for other parents, nor do I have a clue what position management plays. Lorri
i just have one thing to say about parents who allow their children to bring "happy meals" into restaurants: liability. my husband and i run a small cafe across the street from a McD. in a tourist town. i don't like the idea of some kid choking on his mcnuggets in my restaurant. all my servers know that it is my responsibility (not theirs!) to ask parents to take the child back to McD. and let him/her finish the happy meal before they come to eat their meal at my cafe. sometimes parents react strongly (rarely, though). most are apologetic and take the child back across the street or just leave. some probably never come back; however, i feel it's bad form to let the kids eat food from another restaurant at one of my tables.
by the way, we are "kid-friendly" complete with toys, crayons, and a kid's menu. i think restauranteurs are crazy to allow parents to bring "outside food" into their establishment without considering their liability insurance premiums.
ruth